The HOBBIT An Unexpected Journey 2013

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The HOBBIT An Unexpected Journey 2013

Postby Kit » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:59 am

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Postby Libra » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:22 pm

Ouch. Definately a little from column 'A' and a little from Column 'B'.

Making The Hobbit into two films? That's just greedy. :(
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Postby JackGiantkiller » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:14 pm

And...a little odd. My wife heard a rumour that the second Hobbit film is actually about the occurrences between the Hobbit and LOTR.

If Peter is producing, is he directing?


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Postby Der Schatten » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:17 am

I hate to burst a bubble but...

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New Line and MGM signed a deal to co-finance and co-distribute The Hobbit and a sequel to the film. New Line will handle distribution in North America, and MGM will distribute internationally, the two studios said. It's unclear whether Jackson will helm the films.
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That does not equate to "The Hobbit as two films." It is greedy, but it's not The Hobbit, part 1 and The Hobbit, part 2. It's The Hobbit and a sequel.
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Postby JoshuaDunlow » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:37 am

Well either way, im a lord of the rings fanatic. And im looking forward to more!

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Postby Beleriphon » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:31 am

JackGiantkiller wrote:If Peter is producing, is he directing?


No, but Sam Raimi is.

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Postby Godfallen » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:44 am

Beleriphon wrote:
No, but Sam Raimi is.



and there goes the LoTR franchise......

I think Peter jackson should just wake up one day...look around..have a cup of coffee...and then get a bullhorn, walk out to his deck, and scream "FECK IT ALL!!!! I'M PETER JACKSON!!!!! AFTER THE HOBBIT AND IT'S SEQUAL, I'M GONNA MAKE THE SIMILLARION INTO A SET OF 6 MOVIES....AND YOUR ALL GONNA WATCH....BECAUSE I AM PETER JACKSON, AND IT'S J.R.R. TOLKIEN!!!!!"

The Simillarion...and no...I doubt I am spelling it right...is one of the most difficult things to read....because J.R.R. Tolkien read the bible and basically said "I need one of these for my world." It's J.R.R. Tolkiens' "bible" of Middle Earth...the entire "old testament" if you will....from the creation of the world and the rise of Morgoth. first mega evil (this guy made Sauron shine his boots), to classic love affairs and the history of every major city: Rivendale, Gondor, Mordor.....
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Postby Setothes » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:02 am

JackGiantkiller wrote: (SMAUG ON FILM!)


Yeah, any attempt at seriously thinking about this gets pre-empted by my daydreams about what Smaug is gonna look like.

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Postby Libra » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:17 am

No, but Sam Raimi is.


By the Girdle of Galadriel, what the H£&& were they thinking?!? :shock:
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Postby JoshuaDunlow » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:52 am

Libra wrote:
No, but Sam Raimi is.


By the Girdle of Galadriel, what the H£&& were they thinking?!? :shock:


< Visions of the Frodo and the Company of 13 dwarves, wearing x-men outfits flashes in his mind. >
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Postby Valiantheart » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:42 am

What I have heard is that the first film will be the Hobbit in its entirety.

The second film will be new material covering from the end of the Hobbit, through the rise of Necromancer, and ending a little before the Fellowship begins. It will probably chronicle a lot of young Strider tales.
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Postby Arcane Guyver » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:50 am

It's been a very long time since reading the novel, but it seems to me that the Hobbit was pretty jam-packed; IIRC, the animated movie wasn't that short, and it left out quite a bit and had short fight sequences.

When I first heard of the Hobbit project becoming two movies, my first thought was: "So the first movie will end with Smaug, and the second will at least start with that big-huge War of Five Armies (or whatever it's called).

Edit: And, with Sam Raimi aboard, there's now a 60% chance that the characters will have at least one small musical number...
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Postby Kit » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:22 pm

Arcane Guyver wrote:It's been a very long time since reading the novel, but it seems to me that the Hobbit was pretty jam-packed; IIRC, the animated movie wasn't that short, and it left out quite a bit and had short fight sequences.


This was just shown in an English class here. Its about an hour long and cuts very little-Bjorn and the Arkenstone. That's pretty much it. The entire book can easily be done in a 2 hour flick.
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Postby Arcane Guyver » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:26 pm

Will have to reread & rewatch the Hobbit, then; though now that I think about it, there were quite a few 'musical' moments in the Hobbit already, padding it out some.
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Postby Beleriphon » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:13 pm

Arcane Guyver wrote:Will have to reread & rewatch the Hobbit, then; though now that I think about it, there were quite a few 'musical' moments in the Hobbit already, padding it out some.


Its a 250 page book, Tolkien's writing style makes it seem much longer than it is. If you really think about it its goes down like this: Hobbiton, Trolls, Rivendell, Mountains, Goblins, Goblins chase, Bjorn, Forest, Spiders, Elves, Lake Town, Approach the lonely mountain, Smaug, Kill Smaug, the Battle of Five Armies, and Home.

If you block those together, and cut some of the extraneous bits (or just shorten some of them to brief scenes) its easily doable in two hours, making it a three hour flick like the Lord of the Rings movies leaves enough room to really flesh out each major sequence.


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