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kenseido wrote:I guess the problem comes down to your definition of "worked."
Did Smallville work? Ten seasons, longest running (by episode count) American science fiction series?
kenseido wrote:As for being Batman-esque, didn't Green Arrow approach that in the Longbow Hunters mini-series?
kenseido wrote:Young Justice works because the cost is lower, so the ratings expectations are lower. Put it on a major network, in prime time, forget it. Wouldn't last a season.
saint_matthew wrote:Smallville didn't work. The only reason it existed for 10 seasons was because there was a large contigent of twilight mums, waiting with bated breath for Tom Welling to take his shirt off.
saint_matthew wrote:Nope. I own Longbow Hunter mini series, it has nothing in common with this TV show
saint_matthew wrote:Except we aren't talking about ratings. Ratings say nothing about the quality of a tv show.
kenseido wrote:I didn't ask if Longbow Hunters was anything like the show, I asked if Green Arrow took a more Batman like approach in Longbow Hunters, which was one of the early complaints in the thread.
kenseido wrote:Except, and here is the really important part, tv executives couldn't care less about the "quality" of a show, as long as the ratings are high enough to make a profit. They are NEVER going to change a show to match the "comic book vision" of the fans - which changes from generation to generation mind you - at the expense of profits.
kenseido wrote:To the diehard Green Arrow fans, yes.
kenseido wrote:To the general public who only knows Green Arrow as the Robin Hood looking superhero with the boxing glove arrow? Not so much. Since the latter is a larger group and more profitable for them, they are going to try and cater to them.
Mortium wrote:Granted, we've also seen what happens when fanboys make big-budget movies. See that horrid abomination known as The Dungeons & Dragons movie.
Mortium wrote:As much as I bitch about the stupidity of the American TV audience (i.e. The Voice, Scare Tactics, Honey Boo Boo, etc), the critics are even worse.
Arthur Eld wrote:I liked the second episode of Arrow, a little bit moreso than the first one.
Mr Mole wrote: I'm reasonably entertained by Green Lantern, although the CGI reminds me a bit too much of claymation.
saint_matthew wrote:At least they tried to develop his character a little in this one.
Mortium wrote:saint_matthew wrote:At least they tried to develop his character a little in this one.
you're going to make me keep repeating myself about early episodes of any series and the character development, aren't you?
saint_matthew wrote:[The] "comic book vision" of . . . fans . . . changes from generation to generation
saint_matthew wrote: I own [the] Longbow Hunter mini series, it has nothing in common with this TV show
Cinder wrote:As I read, I was trying to get a handle on what your criticism is, specifically.
Is your main complaint the quality of this show particularly or generally the attempts to make Arrow too gritty (i.e. Batman-like)? I think that it is some portion of both.
Cinder wrote:So to say that this show and Longbow have nothing in common is not entirely accurate in my opinion. I may need to look at the books again, but then again you may need to look at the books again, because I seem to remember them differently.
Cinder wrote:Not that it is an assurance of quality, but that series was nominated for an Eisner.
Cinder wrote:On the idea of the oft referenced Lycra, I would say that it may seem to you that they are “trying to make everything like Batman.” (paraphrasing) However, I would say that what they are actually trying to do is make a show that doesn’t get laughed at for being corny and five-colored. Sorry, but IMO, that stuff really only works in comedies now.
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