Archetypes & Legacies question

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Archetypes & Legacies question

Post by JimHart » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:25 pm

Just curious as to why the PL10 Star Knight's totals add up to 183 instead of 150? I thought PL10 put the max at 150.

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Re: Archetypes & Legacies question

Post by Horsenhero » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:04 pm

You'll find that NPC's are not necessarily bound by the same rules as PC's for character creation. You might also assume Star Knight has had some experience, leading to a greater breadth of character, if not a superior PL.

If you look over the builds in Roll Call, you'll find many characters who both low-ball their PP at their PL and exceed them. It all depends on the overall capability of the character.

Whereas for PC's, the PP allowances are to make certain all players start on an even playing field with one another.

This is actually referenced in the gamemastering section of the rules.

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Re: Archetypes & Legacies question

Post by JimHart » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:10 pm

Thank you so much for the response. That makes sense ... and I think I need to brush up on the Gamemastering section a bit more. :lol:

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Re: Archetypes & Legacies question

Post by King Snarf » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:06 pm

2e was NOTORIOUS about not following PL guidelines as far as points went. ("Hey, do you think we should design some of these characters within the guidelines in case a player wants to play them?" "NAAAAAH!")
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Re: Archetypes & Legacies question

Post by JetstreamGW » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:44 pm

JimHart wrote:Thank you so much for the response. That makes sense ... and I think I need to brush up on the Gamemastering section a bit more. :lol:
Also note that in the Power points section it refers to the point totals given per PL as a SUGGESTED number of points. It is merely a guideline. You can have a PL5 character with 500 points if you want.

I don't know what the hell you'd spend it all on, but by damn it can happen.

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Re: Archetypes & Legacies question

Post by kenseido » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:05 pm

Lots of powers with No Save, Poison, and Disease.
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Re: Archetypes & Legacies question

Post by Greyman » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:50 pm

Back in 2e, just for fun, I once built:

Name: Invulnerable-But-Useless-Man; PL -2 (150 pp)
Quote: "You can't stop me from doing nothing... cause that's what I do best!"
Abilities: Str 1 (-5), Dex 1 (-5), Con 1 (-5), Int 1 (-5), Wis 1 (-5), Cha 1 (-5).
Saves: Toughness -5; Fortitude 0 (-5), Reflex 0 (-5), Will 0 (-5).
Combat: Attack +0, Grapple -5; Damage: -5 unarmed (DC 10 T); Defense (+0, +0 dodgeless, meh); Initiative -5; Knockback +2.
Skills: None (and -5 to all checks!)
Feats: None.
Powers:
* Immunity 183 {Aging, Sleep, Starvation & Thirst, Entrapment, Interaction Skills, All Non-Lethal Energy Damage, All Lethal Energy Damage, All Non-Lethal Physical Damage, All Lethal Physical Damage, All Fortitude Effects, All Reflex Effects, All Will Effects},
* Super-Senses 17 {Auditory: Counters Obscure, Vision: Counters Concealment, Counters Illusion, Counters Obscure; Normal Vision: Penetrates Concealment},
* Super-Movement 2 {Air Walk 1, Permeate 1}.
Costs: Abilities -54 + Saves 0 + Combat 0 + Skills 0 (0 ranks) + Feats 0 + Powers 204 = 150.
Complications: Unstoppable but completely useless.

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