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Absorption Limit error

Postby rchipman » Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:19 pm

I just built a level 10 character with 8 ranks of absoption (absorbs: physical, effect: boost - healing)

With a defense bonus of 10 and a toughness bonus of 0 (for testing purposes only), it tells me that I have too many ranks of absorption. It says that it is limited to 20-defense-toughness.

Why am I getting an error, when 10+8=18?

Here is the actual character build:

Mercury

Power Level: 10; Power Points Spent: 150/150

STR: +4 (18), DEX: +4 (18), CON: +0 (10), INT: +2 (14), WIS: +0 (10), CHA: +2 (14)

Tough: +0, Fort: +0, Ref: +8, Will: +0

Skills: Appraise 6 (+8), Bluff 12 (+14), Computers 6 (+8), Diplomacy 8 (+14), Disable Device 6 (+8), Gather Information 8 (+12), Knowledge (streetwise) 10 (+12), Language 3 (+3), Notice 14 (+14), Perform (stringed instruments) 11 (+13), Profession (Musician) 10 (+10), Research 6 (+8), Sense Motive 10 (+10), Sleight of Hand 11 (+17), Swim 4 (+8)

Feats: Attack Focus (melee) 5, Attractive, Dodge Focus 5, Equipment 1, Evasion 2, Fast Overrun, Improved Flank, Move-by Action, Quick Draw, Taunt, Teamwork, Uncanny Dodge (Flat-Footed), Wealth 10, Zig-Zag 2

Powers:
Gauntlets of Hermes (Device 25) (Easy to lose; Normal Appearance)
Absorption 8 (divine, absorbs: physical, effect: boost - healing; Personal, Unreliable (Die Roll))
Duplication 10 (kinetic; Survival, Horde; Chained (Absorption 8); Absorption Healing, Mental Link, Progression, # Duplicates 3 (10 duplicates), Sacrifice)
Enhanced Trait 24 (Traits: Knowledge (history) +5 (+7), Knowledge (theology & philsophy) +6 (+8), Medicine +5 (+5), Feats: Attack Focus (melee) 5, Attractive, Dodge Focus 5, Evasion 2, Fast Overrun, Improved Flank, Move-by Action, Taunt, Teamwork, Zig-Zag 2)
Immunity 9 (life support)
Super-Speed 7 (kinetic, +28 Initiative, Adds: Quickness 7, Speed 7; Rapid Attack (Radius: 35 ft.), Wall Run, Water Run, Running Punch)
Quickness 7 (Perform routine tasks at 250x speed)
Speed 7 (Speed: 1000 mph, 8800 ft./rnd)

Equipment: Tonfa

Attack Bonus: +5 (Ranged: +5, Melee: +10, Grapple: +14)

Attacks: Tonfa, +10 (DC 20), Unarmed Attack, +10 (DC 19)

Defense: 20 (Flat-footed: 13), Knockback: +0

Initiative: +4/+32

Drawbacks: Impatient, uncommon, major, Power Surge, common, major (DC 20)

Languages: English, Greek, Italian, Latin

Totals: Abilities 24 + Skills 32 (125 ranks) + Feats 3 + Powers 74 + Combat 20 + Saves 4 - Drawbacks 7 = 150

Validation: Gauntlets of Hermes (Device 25) - Absorption 8: Too many ranks - limited to (20 - Defense - Toughnes

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Re: Absorption Limit error

Postby Doctor Vile » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:11 am

Well another thing that looks off is you have a Defense of 20 (13 flatfooted). The 13 flatfooted would seem to indicate you bought at least 6 ranks of Defense and if you add that to the 5 ranks of dodge focus, that would come up to a total of 21 and not 20 unless I missed something?
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Re: Absorption Limit error

Postby Woodclaw » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:54 am

Doctor Vile wrote:Well another thing that looks off is you have a Defense of 20 (13 flatfooted). The 13 flatfooted would seem to indicate you bought at least 6 ranks of Defense and if you add that to the 5 ranks of dodge focus, that would come up to a total of 21 and not 20 unless I missed something?


That's because when you calculate the dodge bonus you have to round your defense down not up. So to get +3/13 Flat footed defense 5 ranks are enough.
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Re: Absorption Limit error

Postby Doctor Vile » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:21 pm

Woodclaw wrote:
Doctor Vile wrote:Well another thing that looks off is you have a Defense of 20 (13 flatfooted). The 13 flatfooted would seem to indicate you bought at least 6 ranks of Defense and if you add that to the 5 ranks of dodge focus, that would come up to a total of 21 and not 20 unless I missed something?


That's because when you calculate the dodge bonus you have to round your defense down not up. So to get +3/13 Flat footed defense 5 ranks are enough.



That's what I thought, that you round down...so isn't half of 5 rounded down 2? If you buy a 5 Defense, wouldn't you have a 15 defense (12 flatfooted)?
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Re: Absorption Limit error

Postby Woodclaw » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:41 pm

Doctor Vile wrote:
Woodclaw wrote:
Doctor Vile wrote:Well another thing that looks off is you have a Defense of 20 (13 flatfooted). The 13 flatfooted would seem to indicate you bought at least 6 ranks of Defense and if you add that to the 5 ranks of dodge focus, that would come up to a total of 21 and not 20 unless I missed something?


That's because when you calculate the dodge bonus you have to round your defense down not up. So to get +3/13 Flat footed defense 5 ranks are enough.



That's what I thought, that you round down...so isn't half of 5 rounded down 2? If you buy a 5 Defense, wouldn't you have a 15 defense (12 flatfooted)?


No it's 15 (13 Flat-footed), because the Dodge bonus from Defense is equal to half the score rounded down (Core book p.32).
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Re: Absorption Limit error

Postby Doctor Vile » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:08 pm

Woodclaw wrote:No it's 15 (13 Flat-footed), because the Dodge bonus from Defense is equal to half the score rounded down (Core book p.32).


Ok I see my error now, you use the defense left over and take off the dodge bonus.
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