Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby The_Watchman » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:49 pm

Goku is revised. I think I fixed all the issues and hopefully it's easier to read now. Also added a complication that popped out at me after Goku met Elsa.
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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby jemal » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:24 pm

Who have I not looked over yet?

PS, I love the christmas complication.

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby Evolución » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:55 am

You haven't said anything about my changes, which are done now. :D

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby jemal » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:42 pm

Evo - Smoke looks good to me, I'm just still wondering what the descriptor is on his Eye/Veil of Lin Kuei : Are these magical, chi, supernatural, ninja training techniqes?

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style Recruiting

Postby jemal » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:14 am

I know what I forgot : I didn't run down Elsa!
Alex wrote:Abilities: 34 pp
Strenght 0 Stamina 2 Agility 3 fighting 3 dexterity 2 intelligence 3 awareness 2 precense 2

I would point out that agility and dexterity aren't really worth it for you since you're not using ANY of the associated skills with them. I would suggest lowering those and getting your dodge & Ranged combat via other means.
Likewise, since you don't use melee attacks, having points in Fighting is counterproductive. You could just buy the appropriate level of Parry (Which is the only thing you're using out of it anyways).
All of these are literally half the cost of buying the abilities.

Skills: 12 pp
Athletics 6 (+6)
Deception 4 (+6)
Expertise (Singing) 6 (+9)
Insight 2 (+4)
Intimidation 3 (+5)
Perception 2 (+4)
Persuasion 2 (+4)
You actually have 25 skill points here. To make it 12p you need to drop a skill point.
Also, these are some really low totals for a pl 10+ game. I would suggest trying to find some more points to get the ones you actually plan on using up to 10 or higher if you plan on

Advantages: 5 pp
Great Endurance, Improved Trip, Ranged Attack 2, Startle

You have no attacks that require ranged attack rolls, so Ranged Attack is pointless.
Likewise, you have no tripping ability, so Imp Trip isn't a good idea.
Also, with such a low intimidation score, Startle will not be useful.

Powers: 99
Environment 4 (500 Feet; Cold 2, Impede Movement 2, Visibility) (Flaws: Uncontrolled) [16]
Are you sure you want it fully uncontrolled? That means you have NO control over it, I just get to turn it on whenever I feel like.
Perhaps you should try using Unreliable (You have a 50/50 chance of activating it whenever you try), and then add a Complication wherin it sometimes goes off when you're stressed.
Also, Since this seeems like mostly a fluff power, I would sugest only 1 or 2 ranks in it. a 60' burst is still pretty big, and paying the extra 8pp to increase that to 250' radius could be cool (No pun intended) in another game, but this is a primarily COMBAT focused game (Present pleasant chatting aside), and the increased size isn't really useful.

Immunity 10 (Cold Effects) [10]
Movement 2 (Environmental Adaptation- Extreme Cold, Water-Walking) [4]

Extreme Cold does not inflict any movement penalties, so environmental adaptation is not required for it. Maybe 'dense snow'?
Enhanced Skills 4: Athletics 4 (+10) (Flaws: Limited to Within Ice & Snow) [1]

Limits on Skills change them from 1/2 ranks to 1/3 ranks (not 1/4), per the usual 'fractional costs' modifier rulings in the powers chapter.
Create 9 (Feats: Innate, Precise 2- Gorgeous) (Extras: Continuous) (28) "ice construct"

Create is 2/rank, Continuous +1/rank = 3/rank X 9 ranks = 27 + 1 innate + 2 precise = 30pp, not 28.
Damage 8 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Line) (16) "icicle barrage"

I would HIGHLY suggest upping this to PL Cap. As has been pointed out before, this is a COMBAT focused game, so not having offense/defense at PL Caps is going to be a major detriment, as I can assure you that all of your opponents WILL be capped (And some of them are PL 12+)
Affliction 8 (Athletics; Hindered & Vulnerable/Prone & Immobile) (Extras: Area- 120ft. Burst +3, Extra Condition) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery) (24) "frozen"

Like with your 'icicle barrage' damage, this is below cap and should be increased.
Also the size on it seems like over-kill, especially in a game that's not going to have a lot of massed force fighting.
Also, what does the 'athletics' mean?

Finally, I would highly suggest making your Create, Damage, and Affliction powers part of an 'ice control' array to make up for the extra cost you'll need to bring your character up to PL Caps. You won't be using them at the same time anyways, and stuff like that is exactly what alternate powers were made for.

Offense:
Unarmed +3 (+0 Damage, DC 15)
Frozen +8 (+8 Affliction, DC 18)
icicle barrage +8 area (+8 damage DC 18 )

First off, you counted the DC wrong for Icicle Barrage. Damage powers have a DC of 15+rank, not 10+rank like everything else, so it should be 15+8=23. (Also see my notes on your powers about upping this).

Second : Area effects do not use attack bonus. When you have an Area Power, anybody caught in the area makes a Dodge save vs DC 10 + Rank (So 18 in this case).
If they FAIL that save, they are affected by the full force of the power (So a DC 18 Fort save for Frozen or a DC 23 Toughness save for Icicle Barrage).
If they Succeed on the dodge save, they take HALF the effect - So Rank 4: DC 14 fort save for Frozen, DC 19(15+4) Toughness Save vs Icicle Barrage.

Also, as a side note, where did you get the +8 FROM? Assuming you were counting them as ranged attacks, you have +2 from the advantage, +2 from Dex which would only have made them +4. If they had been melee it would only have been +3 (like your unarmed, +3 fgt skill).

Defenses:
Dodge +4 (Dc 14)
Parry +4 (DC 14)
Toughness +2
Fortitude +5
Will +7

As with your offenses, your Defenses here are WAY TOO FAR DANGEROUSLY LOW! This is a COMBAT focused game of PL 10+ characters. The weak end of attacks used against you will be around +10 to hit dc 25 damage.. With a doge/parry of 14, they would need a 4 to hit you (85% chance), and you would FAIL on a 20! Heck, if you roll a 12 or lower, you're staggered.. 7 or lower and you're incapacitated.
that's a ~30% chance of dropping in ONE HIT from the WEAKEST attack you'll encounter.
I would also suggest getting your fort/will up to at LEAST 8-10.

Complications:
Motivation (gaining control of power)
Responsibility (ice power)
Responsibility (Arendelle)
Relationship (Anna)
Guilt (Monstrous Power)

These could be good motivations in a regular game, but I don't forsee any of these gaining you HP in this setting.

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby VampGuy » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:12 am

I'm REALLY sorry about this, but I gotta bow out.

RL is gonna get super hectic for a while and I just won't have the time.

Jemal, feel free to keep Riddick in the story line if you want, I can shift control to someone who wants to play and has time to fix what you posted needed fixing. Ifnot, let me know and I'll do something bad in the hall to get him chandeliered

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby Alex » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:34 am

Elsa revised. Thanks for the review, i'm kinda new at this game

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby valhalla_bound » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:13 pm

Not for nothing but I really hope that is Death from the Disc World series. He is awesome.

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby jemal » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:20 am

Alright so with the dropouts it looks like our lineup us:

Elsa, Goku, Deadpool, Merlin, Arcueid, Smoke, and Sar'koth.

Did I miss anyone?

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby The_Watchman » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:54 am

valhalla_bound wrote:Not for nothing but I really hope that is Death from the Disc World series. He is awesome.

He is indeed awesome but doesn't seem the tournament type. Just to be clear, is Aleister the same hooded figure that did the neck slice gesture to Sarkoth?
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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby jemal » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:31 am

Aleister AKA the boogeyman, is the Guy talking to Elsa:
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The guy who was 'talking' to Sar'koth was a grim reaper (Not Death herself, sorry Deadpool)
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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby The_Watchman » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:49 am

Ahhh. Hehe. Aleister does have a thing for ice people doesn't he?

Edit: and given his popularity as a brave hero to children...Aleister must loathe Goku...
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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby XeroKhan » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:17 am

I may know that, but Deadpool doesn't. :twisted:

"You sick son of a dick."

What?

"You KNEW that Death is not here?"

Well-

"No, do NOT say anything. You have said ENOUGH now."

But-

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style OOC

Postby valhalla_bound » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:48 am

I am having second thoughts simply because I thought of doing a Krogan. Oh well. Too late now.

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Re: Ultimate Showdown: Tournament style Recruiting

Postby Voidrazor » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:16 pm

Merlin has been updated with several minor changes to his magic array.

jemal wrote:
Voidrazor wrote:Practical Prophecy (Advantages: Assessment, Defensive Attack, Defensive Roll 4, Evasion 2, Improved Aim, Improved Initiative 4, Teamwork, Uncanny Dodge) 59pp
Combat Prescience: Enhanced Trait 28 (Traits: Dodge +14 (+14), Parry +14 (+14))
Seer's Vision: Senses 20 (Awareness: Cosmic, Counters All Concealment, Counters Illusion, Danger Sense, Penetrates Concealment, Precognition, Quirk: Must remain cryptic when speaking about knowledge gained from precognition or postcognition.)

I presume the 59pp is for ALL of this, even though you have it listed with the advantages?
What are these senses enhancing (Counters concealment/illusion, penetrates concealment)?
Also the cryptic quirk isn't really a good quirk, since the knowledge you gain from precog is already cryptic to begin with.

Yes, that's for the power as a whole. I'll break it down in the next version for improved clarity. Rule-wise, his sense enhancement effects vision. Flavor-wise, being able to see through illusions objects etc. is based off of precog. I dropped the quirk.

jemal wrote:No to selective create.

Dropped. But note that the base power of his magic array has had Indirect from Merlin's original version.

jemal wrote:
Voidrazor wrote:Dynamic Alt - Far Sight: Multiple Effects
Senses 17 (Sustained; Acute, Analytical Detect Magic [visual]; Extended 4: x10k cosmic awareness; Radius, Tracking, Extended 2: x100 vision; Postcognition; all Stacking with Seer's Vision)
Enhanced Trait: +8 Perception, +11 Insight

So acute, analytical = Detect magic
Extended 4 = Cosmic awareness
Radius, tracking, extended 2 = Vision
is this correct?

Exactly.

jemal wrote:
Voidrazor wrote:Draconic Soulshift Form - PL 11

First off, I presume from the fact that his non-physical attributes are changed by this, and that you gain different complications, that it isn't just a physical change?

Yep, memories are retained, but his personality shape and essence are changed.

jemal wrote:Also after going over the characters in more detail, I'm going to ask that you only take ONE of the alternate forms. Even without an alternate form, Merlin's pretty powerful, the addition of either of these forms adds a lot more versatility and power, both is just too much.

OK, I liked accentuating his cambion heritage with a separate form. But Dracoform is much cooler.


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