Emerald City Is Here!

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JonL wrote:Thanks, Jameson!

Ev's direct message inbox was full, so he didn't see he had messages. It's a good thing I pinged him about it!

I'm glad you got your PDFs and I hope you like them!

Now if only someone would review Emerald City somewhere...
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Any word on the codes for brick and mortar stores?

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I purchased the PDF version of Emerald City last week and like it but I have to admit Freedom City has a special place in my heart even though I don't play a US-based game (I'm a Brit and my players protect London and the haunting city of Wessex).

I have just read the latest posting by Green Ronin and am extremely excited about an updated Freedom City and hopefully Hero High coming out in the next year.

So here's my dilemma - I like Emerald City, but I get really excited about an updated Freedom City and have pulled numerous elements out of it to incorporate into my own campaign, something I can't see myself doing with Emerald City, yet - Wessex has a Claremont Academy (with a large norm' school population and a boarding school section) on the outskirts of St. Mary Meade (where a certain elderly lady detective was finally exposed as a serial killer), a version of Atom Family (a mix of the Noble Causes family from the Image Universe and the Atoms) called Challenger-Wildman who live in Canary Wharf, London and specialise solving fringe science mysteries and so on... Characters such as Daedalus also appear as NPC's.

The material in Freedom City just seems to be more versatile than Emerald City's and in some ways I feel it would have been better if Green Ronin had provided the updated material first and the new location afterwards. Anyone else feel the same or has anyone identified elements (other than the Silver Storm) that they must use from Emerald City?

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Inspired by the by the talk of Marvel's Inhumanity storyline, I've been playing with the idea of having some of the Cryptid Clans be tied to the Farsiders as Earth-based cousins.

Similarly, I've thought a revised or recreated Chamber could make for a good Fraternity-style (from the comic Wanted) big bad villain group of a campaign.

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Honestly when I played 2e I barely got to know Freedom City, and my group didn't get it much at all. Having Emerald City be empty with guidelines and behind the scenes bits the way they did is awesome IMO.

I would compare Freedom City to a painting where you have the opportunity to change and add color here and there. But Emerald City is a Paint By Numbers or artists rough sketch where you are guided how to proceed but you have lots of freedom without wholesale rewriting. This appeals to me greatly.

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In other words the book could be called:

GMing through baby steps.....or.....Supers Campaign Design for DUMMIES!

It would have been great to actually have it in that yellow Dummies style book. "Emerald City for DUMMIES!"

That is good as that approach works very well. I'm glad they did that.

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insaniac99 wrote:I would compare Freedom City to a painting where you have the opportunity to change and add color here and there. But Emerald City is a Paint By Numbers or artists rough sketch where you are guided how to proceed but you have lots of freedom without wholesale rewriting. This appeals to me greatly.
I don't really see it that way.

The difference between the two settings is npcs. Freedom City is loaded with npc heroes you can steal and use in your own games even if you're not using the city. Emerald City is a place where the players get to be the heroes. There's not 50 other heroes running around trying to steal the spotlight. EC does not have less campaign detail, just less NPCs.

Freedom City is Marvel's NYC, with the Avengers, FF, X-Men, and dozens of other heroes all working the same stage. Emerald City is DC's Metropolis, or Gotham, or Central City where one, or a small group of heroes, calls it home and they are the focal point of the setting.

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You can have both though, the idea is if they are printed in the book you must use them. Instead you can have a portfolio of 'heroes and teams' that the GM can put in but aren't assumed to be there. A plug and play approach.

what that means is GR, if they wanted to, could do an add on pdf including 'heroes' and other npcs (like anti-heros and others) that are not villains that the players could meet and be plugged in during a campaign or story series.

this would mean you could add characters from around the world, not just those based in Emerald City, but ones that characters might meet while they visit other places or those characters come to Emerald City for some purpose, or an event outside the city occurs that the heroes based in Emerald City go to to interact with.

This would be the most straight forward and best evolution for Emerald City and Freedom City. "Take your heroes to a national level' or international or global.

It is nice to start a game with a local, city basis, but eventually campaigns might grow and in real comics forces outside the city, like villainous organizations and rules of places like Atlantis and others might interact with the home city or an event, much like the BP oil spill, might call for heroes in the city to go forth to help the nation, and thus gain that positive brownie points for their reputation.

The best part is this would be a great, next pdf series call it: Crisis Situation or Freedomverse: Places (spotlight) or do a series with a bit of both.

Since this in effect adds on to both freedom city and emerald city and weaves it into a greater setting, it is a good idea with a lot of potential.

International events, like with Chernobyl exploded or the BP oil spill are great events to start, or since its Emerald City on the West coast, the earthquake in Japan, and it would mean a game where western-based heroes meet and interact with Japanese, Chinese or other heroes. Imagine a competition of Chinese and/or Japanese heroes 'helping' to gain more honor/glory in their help so its like a PR challenge, throw in some other elements, like a villain and you got a cool little plot for a game.

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A freedom universe atlas pdf series is already on the drawing board for next year.

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Monolith wrote:A freedom universe atlas pdf series is already on the drawing board for next year.
That's awesome, where is the info for this that I completely missed?

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insaniac99 wrote:
Monolith wrote:A freedom universe atlas pdf series is already on the drawing board for next year.
That's awesome, where is the info for this that I completely missed?
It was revealed as the next pdf series in the last Vigilance Press podcast.

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Monolith wrote:Freedom City is Marvel's NYC, with the Avengers, FF, X-Men, and dozens of other heroes all working the same stage. Emerald City is DC's Metropolis, or Gotham, or Central City where one, or a small group of heroes, calls it home and they are the focal point of the setting.
An its not like Freedom City was subtle about it. Lady Liberty is Miss America, White Lion is Black Panther, Dakana is one letter off being a scrambelled Wakanda, Gigantosaur is Fing Fan Foom, Sub-Terra is the home of "Mole Men", The Grue are Skrulls, the Meta-Mind is the Supreme Intelligence, The Star Knigths are Novas (or alternatively Rom the Space Knight), The Atom Family is the Fantastic Four, Next Gen is the X-Men, Eldrich is Doctor Strange, Factor Four is the U-Foes, The Psions are Pre-Claremont X-Men, etc etc.

The problem with Freedom City was that it was already too cluttered with characters, much like Marvels NYC itself. Anything that gives GM's a solid background while also giving enough space for the GM to invest in the setting is a good thing. :D
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Monolith wrote:
insaniac99 wrote:
Monolith wrote:A freedom universe atlas pdf series is already on the drawing board for next year.
That's awesome, where is the info for this that I completely missed?
It was revealed as the next pdf series in the last Vigilance Press podcast.
These kinds of announcements should stop being things that only appear on podcasts, blogs and Facebook and should appear shortly after their reveal in whatever location on the main page of this website.
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K.G. Carlson wrote:These kinds of announcements should stop being things that only appear on podcasts, blogs and Facebook and should appear shortly after their reveal in whatever location on the main page of this website.
The podcast is a preview. Green Ronin doesn't usually post the actual information about upcoming products until after they do their year in review and talk about what's coming for next year.

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Monolith wrote:
K.G. Carlson wrote:These kinds of announcements should stop being things that only appear on podcasts, blogs and Facebook and should appear shortly after their reveal in whatever location on the main page of this website.
The podcast is a preview. Green Ronin doesn't usually post the actual information about upcoming products until after they do their year in review and talk about what's coming for next year.
If they're in a position to talk about it they should be doing so on their website or on these forums. I have zero interest in podcasts and think this website should be the very first place news about this game is published.

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